Monopoly-is this the motto behind delayed subject addition issue?

Who are the stakeholders for pharmD(PB)? Who will protect our rights ?who will see our benefits are taken care of instead of thinking about others/PharmD , let us think about ourselves /PharmD(PB).Once you are happy then only you are able to keep others happy isnt it?one official association should be made there concerning the benefits of PharmD(PB) and for the protection of rights of pharmd(PB) students, who will take care of any issues related with PharmD(PB).whats ur say?Any talk related with the betterment of pharmD(PB) students should be encouraged here.Friends,my opinions are entirely my own and I can recommend them. I agree with you on some of the points u made here on this post, but my issue is that there should be some uniformity through out the country regarding the syllabus of a PharmD/PharmD(PB) curriculum.thats all i have to say.When I paid an amount as fees in my college to get some degree and study a curriculum, i just want to make it sure that i get the best out of it. My concern is only that the fundamental, basic ,core subjects like pathophysiology, hospital Pharmacy and community pharmacy must get added in the PharmD(PB) syllabus,this year before i pass out. I am not blaming entirely to organizations like PCI and universities for this.When I took admission in PharmD(PB), I was ignorant about this syllabus issue, but now today when i came to know about this, i want to rectify it and make other pharmD(PB) students like me ,aware about the same. However I guess some blame also goes to the abovesaid parent organizations, as when they are launching and approving a course, they should ensure that all is well, because i expect an organization's vision should be much broader than an individual's.It seems as if the Pharm- D (PB) syllabus has been structured by some beheaded ghost. However as they say you are responsible for your own life. I am not against PharmD regular, I wish them all the best and all the luck. But I am worried about myself and PharmD(PB) syllabus . There is nothing wrong in it!!!Now a days when it snows or rains, 5% of people go outside and play and enjoy it ; while 95% make a Facebook status about it.
Purpose is get aware and do something about the issue, just dont sit there doing nothing.
On pharmaceutical events and on Facebook also I see students worrried and talking about trival issues like putting prefix " Dr" infront of their name in internship or after getting degree.
all tactics to mislead students from real issue. It doesnt matter whether they write PharmD or doctor of pharmacy in degree, ultimately you remain a pharmacist.
My opinion:The real issue is they dont want to add the mentioned subjects in other universities except in deemed universities like JSS and Manipal, who dont depend on others to add any subjects in their syllabus. Thats why their fees is exceptionally high in comparison to other universities and colleges . For pharmD(PB) 3 yrs course ,they ask 9 lakhs as fees. And Dr B.Suresh who is South Indian himself, had his whole schooling, gradution and postgraduation in Mysore,South India, is also Principal of the JSS college as well as Chairman of JSS univ,who also happens to be the PCI president.They want to create monopoly and enjoy the exclusive status of colleges/universities with advantages of having additional subjects. The more delay it gets for years,the more these exclusive universities enjoy this benefit.Quote:You can tell monopoly is an old game because there is a luxary tax and rich people can go to jail.Quote : Power corrupts, absolute power absolutely.

Or 

Office and functionaries are not matching in performance with Dr B Suresh's vision and dynamism. 

D.Pharm to Pharm.D/Pharm.D(PB)

To make minimum qualification for a registered pharmacist to do pharmacy practice in India, Pharm-D degree rather than D.Pharm ie. to replace the state's diploma of pharmacist.

Instead of updating and upgrading the syllabus of D.Pharm, what the policy makers have done is that they have created a new course named Pharm.D/Pharmd(PB) and obvious plan is to make it the minimum qualification for a registered pharmacist to do pharmacy practice in India.

Why create so much confusion, why malign the integrity of Pharmacy field. They could have retained the D.Pharm course and should have made neccessary changes in the syllabus and duration of D.Pharm, so that the minimum qualification for a registered pharmacist to do pharmacy practice in India remain D.Pharm and no need to replace the state's diploma of pharmacist. 

Just imagine if M.B.B.S course is replaced by some other course which is made minimum qualification for a registered physician to do medical practice in India.

However a different take on D. Pharm course is as follows: A different POV :

So many regulatory bodies and governing bodies in pharmacy education: whims of my mind

PCI(Pharmacy Council Of India) and AICTE(All India Council for technical education) are the governing bodies in the pharmacy education , keeping in mind the compounding and dispensing as well as the technical aspects involved in Pharmaceutical Engineering .

Now with the advent of Pharm D course in pharmacy, which is clinically oriented 6 years course in pharmacy and the syllabus is designed such as  first 3 years are same as B.Pharm ( compounding and dispensing oriented) and next 2 years are same as MD Pharmacology (medically and clinically oriented) and 1 year of internship in an attached (minimum- 300 beded) hospital , one may expect MCI (medical council of India) to get into the thick of the things/matters.

As it requires an affiliation with a  hospital( minimum 300 beded), to get approval for an pharmaceutical institute from PCI to conduct the course , one must expect MCI(medical council of India) also to get involved as a regulatory and governing body.

PCI governs courses like : D.Pharm
                                         B.Pharm
                                        Pharm D and Pharm D(PB)

AICTE governs courses like : B.Pharm( jointly with PCI)
                                              M.Pharm

Now one must expect AICTE,PCI and MCI may jointly govern : Pharm D and Pharm D(PB)

But no, its not a rational thinking on my part. MCI will get involve only when the course is a medical one or may be when the professional doctor is dealing with a body part.
So, its fair enough that MCI is not involved into these matters.

                                             

I think this should be done" A bridge course for connecting Pharm D and MBBS". (SARCASM) Pharmacist A HealthCare professional? If so why pharmacy course is not?. Has the Pharmacy education been got included in National Health Education Manual?

I think this should be done : " A bridge course for connecting Pharm D and MBBS". This shall allow to produce talents and experts who have amalgamated, comprehensive  knowledge of  all the 3 most important aspects of healthcare which are medicine( for diagnosis of disease), pharmacy( for authentic knowledge of medications for prescription writing) and surgery (of course for operations). This has to definitely improve  and enhance quality of patient-care manyfolds . Why we shall always follow USA or western setups of education and service systems? They are good no doubt, as they are rich countries with large budgets for healthcare; but sometimes we must take initiatives and become leaders and provide path-breaking or a new-path setting grounds for others to follow.
Therefore I wrote a mail to secretory of MCI (secretary@mciindia.org), requesting for the same. It goes as follows:

Respected Sir/Madam,

I am currently pursuing 2nd year of PharmD (Post baccalaureate), which is a relatively a new curriculum started by PCI since 2008 and which is clinically oriented pharmacy. Up till now pharmacy in India was industry oriented i.e. pharmacist was more into manufacturing,sales,research of discovery of novel molecules and invention of formulations etc.But now with the advent of PharmD, it has become clinically oriented i.e. now a pharmacist is given an opportunity, allowed and equipped to play a role in direct patient care, giving pharmaceutical care. 
Madam, PharmD syllabus framed by PCI contains many pharmacy related subjects along with the subjects which are present in common in both MBBS and PharmD curriculum, i.e. subjects like anatomy and physiology (a lot lesser of it is there in PharmD), Pathophysiology, Biochemistry, Microbiology, Pharmacology, Biopharmaceutics (a lot more of it is there in PharmD). 
Madam, I have a great respect for MBBS course and for physicians and surgeons. And I am currently 29 year old man. This is to ask you whether its feasible/ possible that a new course/curriculum may be framed and started by MCI within two to three years, which can bridge this gap between PharmD and MBBS.That is, a bridge-course(of 3years duration) which shall allow a PharmD graduate to be certified as MBBS,upon successfully completion of such a course. This may bring a new input, perspective and vision in patient care, to MBBS/physician as well as provide an opportunity, encourage, help fulfil dreams and strong aspirations of human beings like me, who wish to study such a curriculum, get a medical license, be a physician and earnestly want to play that very role in the healthcare system, at this stage and age of our lives.  
May all this come into effect for the 2014-2015 session.

Hoping for an encouraging, enlightening and positive reply on this request from you.

Yours truly,

Samrat Paul

Pharmacist A HealthCare professional? If so why pharmacy course is not?.

Has the Pharmacy education been got included in National Health Education Manual?

DEA number

A DEA number (DEA Registration Number) is an identifier assigned to a health care provider (such as a physician, optometrist, ], dentist, or veterinarian) by the United States Drug Enforcement Administration allowing them to write prescriptions for controlled substances.

After completion of Pharm D(PB) in India and after successfully passing entrance exam by CPC in India again, will the indian pharmacist is supposed to appear for entrance exam FPGEE /NAPLEX in USA, so as a DEA number is issued to him by USA ? 

rubbish from PCI: why one must correlate internship fees issue with stipend to interns issue?

Ref. No. 14-218/2013-PCI/80899-81004 Dated:28 feb, 2013
ALL INSTITUTIONS APPROVED BY PCI FOR THE CONDUCT OF PHARM. D / PHARM. D (P.B) COURSE.
Sub.: Stipend for Pharm. D Students during internship.
Sir/Madam
With reference to the subject cited above, it is stated that there have been a strong demand from the students undergoing Pharm D course that they should be paid Stipend during the 6th year (internship) and in case Stipend is not paid they may be exempted from payment of fee during the internship period.
It is requested that your comments on the above demand may be sent to this council within 15 days to examine the matter further.
Yours faithfully
Sd/-
(ARCHNA MUDGAL)
Registrar-cum-

This letter/ common circular from PCI is rubbish.This is so confusing- first of all the institutions should not expect fees for the internship year, which is a customary thing for other healthcare courses: may it be medical, dental, physiotherapy or nursing students- no body pays for the internship year. So why should one must co- relate the internship year fee with the stipend? Both are totally different things and un related. A Pharm D/(PB) student must get stipend and must not be forced to give the fee for the Intenship year. This is so wrong!!!

          I just wonder Whats the poor  status of  an organization like PCI- it simply has no authority or upperhand over its approved institutions. It actually doesnt has any control over these institutions.

         Arguing with institution for stipend is like wrestling with pig in mud. After sometime you realize , you are getting dirty , but the pig is enjoying it.

why is it so that in India, the Pharm D course has been initially started in South Indian states only? Is lobbying for a new course is a factor?

 

Is Pharm D or PharmD(PB) is a professional doctorate degree or an academic doctorate degree?

This source of notification seems to be quite authentic:Check it out!!!
To All Universities.
Sub: Clarification on Pharm.D qualification.
Sir/Madam
With reference to the subject cited above, I directed to inform that subject cited issue was considered by the 88th /CC in its meeting held in August, 2011 & decided to forward a clarification to all universities that Pharm.D is a PG qualification and passed out students can directly register for Ph.D.
This is for information.
Yours faithfully
Sd/-
(ARCHNA MUDGAL)
Registrar-cum-Secretary
Nav/14-

However I feel as if its a UG course and a professional doctorate.

another letter in the scheme of things- further

To DATE: 27/03/2012
PLACE:RAICHUR
The Registrar,
Rajiv Gandhi University Of Health Sciences,Karnataka
Bangalore,
Subject:Immediate attention for correction & inclusion of subjects for pharm D (PB) course-reg
Through: The Principal, N.E.T Pharmacy College Raichur.
Respected Sir,
We are the Pharm-D(Post Baccalautreate) students(2010-2013) pursuing the course from NET Pharmacy College Raichur under RGUHS.
According to Pharm-D (Post Baccalaureate) regulations 2008 mentioned in RAJIV GANDHI UNIVERSITY OF HEALTH SCIENCES, Karnataka, the scheme of Examination for Pharm-D(Post Baccalaureate) Course, given in page no. 4,the subject Hospital and Community pharmacy(serial no.1.5) is already mentioned to be included in the First Year(Fourth year of Pharm-D course). But instead the above subject, Biopharmaceutics and pharmacokinetics(serial no. 4.5) has been included, as given in table (First year Post baccalaureate-Fourth year of Pharm-D course) on page no.2.
This is to inform you that, at our B.Pharm syllabus under various Universities we didn’t had subjects of Hospital & Community Pharmacy, and Pathophysiology. These subjects are the basic and fundamental subjects for a Pharm-D(PB) course, upon which other subjects are based e.g.: Pharmacotherapeutics I,II,and III are related with Pathophysiology. Though these subjects are included in the Pharm D(6yr-regular) university syllabus in 2nd year, where as these are not included in Pharm D(PB) RGUHS syllabus. Sir, this is to bring to your notice that these above subjects are very important for an aspirant clinical pharmacist to understand the basics and are the essence of the Pharm D(PB) course.
All of us students of Pharm D(PB) also had not studied either of these two subjects or one or none in our B.Pharm syllabus under our respective universities.
Sir, without having these 2 basic clinically oriented subjects (1.Hospital&Community Pharmacy) and 2. Pathophysiology our course wont be valid and valued.
We request you to kindly consider our appeal and make suitable amendments in the existing Pharm.D(PB) Syllabus by adding these 2 basic subjects, effective from this academic year, so that we all Pharm D(PB) students may cover all the required core subjects under our syllabus which will enable us to be at par with Pharm D(6yr-regular) students who already have these subjects in their syllabus. This may also enable us to be eligible for appearing in competitive exams at international level. Hence we shall get better jobs and opportunities globally.
We hope our request will be considered favorably and implemented at the earliest.
Thanking You,
Yours Sincerely,
Pharm D(Post Baccalaureate) students,
2010-13 batch
N.E.T PC Raichur.
ENCLOSURES: 1. List of Pharm D(PB) students of N.E.T Pharmacy College, who completed B.Pharm . from various universities (including RGUHS) with subjects not studied in their B.Pharm.
2. The remarks of our faculty on addition of subjects in Pharm D(PB) syllabus. . 3. FPGEC bulletin 2011. Copy to: 1. Dean, Faculty Of Pharmacy, RGUHS, Bangalore. . 2. Chairman; BOS, Faculty Of , RGUHS, Bangalore.

new developments in the scheme of things but very late

Subject: Immediate attention for correction and inclusion of subject for Pharm D(Post Bacclaureate ) course- reg
Sir,
I am trying to bring to your kind notice that there is a discrepancy in the course details of First year Post Baccalaureate PharmD released in the regulations of RGUHS, 2008. It is observed that in the subject details mentioned in page no.2/table for First year Post Baccalaureate course , serial no. 4.5 under the name of the subject it is mentioned as Biopharmaceutics and Pharmacokinetics. However there is total deviation observed in the scheme of examination for the same course in page no.4, it is Hospital & Community Pharmacy subject mentioned in serial no. 1.5. Infact one that is referred in this page is the appropriate title and one that is mentioned in page no. 2 is not relevant.
Hence I request you to submit the same to the University so that it may be considered in forthcoming Academic Council Meeting. However the "Students Representation Copy" is attached here with this mail for your reference.
Thanking You
H.O.D Pharmacy Practice,
N.E.T Pharmacy College.

I can see PCI is getting a free publicity from me for PharmD(PB)

Any publicity is good for PharmD(PB),to spread awareness?Positive or negative publicity both helps PCI?Isnt it?

Super Lumpenproletariats of PharmD(PB) students society will do the damage

Lumpenproletariat means the apolitical lower orders of society uninterested in revolutionary advancement.We must get united and ask for the rights like subject additions in our curriculum.This only will open doors of further good quality education may it be indian or abroad education for us.If we ourselves wont elect the subjects which must be in the curriculum, than who else will?WE are responsible for our lives. United we stand , divided we fall. We must not see the downfall.

Not much time is left...Changes must come before we pass out

I appeal to PharmD(PB) students of all colleges of nation to be aware of your own syllabus and appeal Organisations and PCI for the required additions to be made in the curriculum before you pass out, so that doors remain open for us otherwise you dont get worth your college fee.

we should not be made scapegoats!!!

My issue is that there should be some uniformity through out the country regarding the syllabus of a PharmD/PharmD(PB) curriculum.thats all i have to say.When I paid an amount as fees in my college to get some degree and study a curriculum, i just want to make it sure that i get the best out of it. My concern is only that the fundamental, basic ,core subjects like pathophysiology, hospital Pharmacy and community pharmacy must get added in the PharmD(PB) syllabus, before i pass out this year. I am not blaming entirely to organizations like PCI and universities for this.When I took admission in PharmD(PB), I was ignorant about this syllabus issue that these subjects are missing, but now today when i came to know about this, i want to rectify it and make other pharmD(PB) students like me ,aware about the same. However I guess some blame also goes to the abovesaid parent organizations, as when they are launching and approving a course, they should ensure that all is well, because i expect an organization's vision should be much broader than an individual's.

PharmD(PB)studentsshall start aNON COOPERATIVEstrike againstPCI

PharmD(PB)students shall start a NON Cooperative strike against colleges,Universities and PCI.Sorry if i sound rebellious but thats the very idea. We cant afford to get it done late any more . This is high time.Subjects must get added this year.

PCIandRGUHSareequallyresponsiblefor PharmD n PharmD(PB)aswell

PharmD(PB) should not be neglected.not a single thing has been done in this direction nor a response has come from someone associated or related with any organisation.Neither PCI nor RGUHS.
I personally feel those who took admission in Pharm D(PB) should once check whether their transcripts /syllabus will be equivalent to that of PharmD regular, and if its not the case ,they should demand for the same from their respective colleges and Universities. And to get it done immediately within this year and to avoid the same fate as of earlier PharmD(PB) batches who got passed earlier without being certified for the above mentioned subjects from their universities and who are in turn now not eligible for FPGEC and Naplex, PB students should hold their college fees unless its get done.

very apt and interesting for the syllabus issue and PCI situation

Proverbs and Quotes that suit to, as per this situation which has occured:
FOR PCI and Universities or policymakers-
-Everyone make mistakes. The trick is to make them when nobody is looking.
(As Pharm D PB students are still unaware of the syllabus shortcomings and the consequences which may follow because of this)
-Most of the problems comes in life because of 2 reasons:
1.First we act without thinking.
(UNiversity/PCI formulated syllabus of Pharm D(PB) without applying brain/without thinking, because logical sequence is missing in the syllabus...without being made to study basic,fundamental,core and clinically oriented subject like pathophysiology, Pharm D PB students are made to study Pharmacotherapeutics-I,II,III). It seems as if the syllabus is formulated by some beheaded ghost.
2.Second we keep thinking without acting.
(Pharm D(PB) students are still inactive inspite of us Pharm D(PB)students(of NET Pharmacy College), trying to bring this issue in focus so much through the posts.We want other PharmD(PB) students from different colleges under RGUHS to write similar letters as we wrote to Registrar of RGUHS,Dean-faculty of Pharmacy of RGUHS and to the Chairman BOS-RGUHS)JAAGO PHARM D(PB) JAAGO/WAKE UP!!!.
-A compromise is an agreement where both parties get what neither of them wanted.
( Under RGUHS, in 2nd year B.Pharm Pathophysiology is already there so RGUHS University may not keep it again in Pharm D(PB)syllabus, neglecting students like me who have come to pursue Pharm D(PB) in RGUHS after completion of B.Pharm from other PCI recognised colleges under Universities where Pathophysiology was not in our B.Pharm syllabus{though such students are in majority}.I think blame goes to PCI for they could not manage to provide an uniform standard to B.Pharm syllabus and could not match upto global scenario.GOD only knows what this organisation is for???!!!
RGUHS may only add Hospital Pharmacy and community Pharmacy in the Pharm D PB syllabus because these subjects are kept optional in B.pharm syllabus of RGUHS.So thats also the need of those students who did B.Pharm under RGUHS but not opted for the above optional subjects in their B.Pharm and now have decided to pursue Pharm D (PB) under RGUHS only after completion of their B.Pharm.
Students who came from outside universities like R.T.M Nagpur, Osmania, nagarjuna(ANU),Jaipur and etc may become the ultimate sufferers.All thanks to the good job done by PCI for so many years.WOW what a vision of this organisation!!!(sarcasm)
Sorry! readers I dont have much positive things to say!!!

Pharm D(PB) syllabus phewwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just few days back PCI inspection took place in our college ie in NET Pharmacy College,Raichur. We got the opportunity to have a talk about PharmD(PB) syllabus problems with the PCI Inspector Dr.Abhay Dharamsi-Principal Atmiya Sarvoday Kelavani Samaj Sanchalit Institute Of Pharmacy,Rajkot.We even shown him the letter we wrote to the Registrar, Dean and Chairman of RGUHS and same we sent to PCI President Dr. B.Suresh.
When we discussed that how these problems have evolved because of non-uniformity of B.Pharm syllabus among all over the different universities of india.To this , he responded by remarking that PCI is only responsible for D.Pharm, PharmD, and PharmD(PB)courses and not for B.Pharm and M.Pharm courses, whereas B.Pharm and M.Pharm courses are responsibility of AICTE. Further he added that Pharmacy in India have many fathers and thats why all these problems came into existence.
When we asked him what should be our set of line of action, in order to solve our syllabus issues, he replied that our direct approach and all communications about this issue should be with first the owner or management of the respective college and finally with RGUHS university, as University has the power to add the required subjects but not delete the subjects in a course.Also he said that even if this requires the university to add, and the students to study additional 6 months or 1 year, to cover these subjects in their syllabus, Pharm D(PB) students should be mentally prepared and ready for the same as those 6 months or 1 year will make their future years of their long career and life smooth and comfortable. Same was conyeved to us by our Principal Dr H. Doddaya long back ago.They both said these additions must be done so as we students become effective and competitive clinical pharmacists.
My personal take on this issue is that if PCI has started Pharm D(PB) course and consider itself morally responsible for the good future and careers of the students who are pursuing this course than it must see to it that PB syllabus in RGUHS is upto the mark and those who will pass this course will be certified rationally only after they have studied and appeared for exams in all the basic and core subjects like (Pathophysiology,Hospital Pharmacy and community Pharmacy),despite AICTE related hurdles, because a genuine and legal father should always feel concern about his children. It seems as if  this syllabus has been structured by some beheaded ghost. And ofcourse we NET Pharm D(PB)students dont mind continuing our study for additional 6 months or 1 year,if the additions are made as soon as possible ,in effect for 2011-2012.I hope and believe other Pharm D(PB) students from other colleges under RGUHS, also dont mind the same.
Also such requests and letters must come from other PharmD(PB)colleges .Another thing is that it would be a lot more easier and convenient for Bangalore PharmD(PB)students to go and communicate directly and frequently with the chairman, dean (faculty of Pharmacy, RGUHS) rather than NET students, Raichur to do the same. So I request Pharm D(PB)students of colleges of bangalore to please do the same.

A similar issue

A batch from VLCP suffered similar glitch for more than 15 years . No state board of pharmacy wanted to register only people passed in those 2 to years .So, no body could n't go to any forien countries to do job.  Their juniors can regsiter and their seniors can register but not only their batch + 2 more batches.
.They as a team brought college, university and PCI to court . The case ran for 10 years and nothing happend. Finally someone taught them art of Negotiation. So their seniors like Ramana Reddy formed a team and strated negotiating with college, university , and PCI. It took sometime but finally their batch got recognisized. So, blaming or making noise may get "attention" but may not solve actual problem..

The issue of Pharm D and Pharm D(PB) syllabus

Even we are trying to put this issue infront of other principals and students of other Pharm D(PB) colleges so that they may also write and demand for the same.We are sending mails to as many of them as we can. You see right now not many people are aware of the issue and the consequences. And yes, its not all about American dream(though it counts),...The main issue is that the syllabus of Pharm D(PB)course is lacking the core,basic, clinically oriented subjects like Pathophysiology, Hospital Pharmacy and community Pharmacy under RGUHS.Pharm D and Pharm D(PB) is all about clinical orientation isn't it? As we mentioned in our letter to Registrar RGUHS,Pharmacotherapeutics I,II,III subjects are based upon Pathophysiology.

 However PCI should not be excused from the accusation that PCI failed to provide an uniform,common for all and a complete syllabus for Pharm D(PB) students ,any course is structured so as some logical sequence is there....u should not make study a student of 1st class physics without making him first study ABCD alphabets.....similarly all pharmacy students should have studied pathophysiology first in B.Pharm only and then pharmacotherapeuticsI,II.and III.But since PCI is afterall PCI, they never taken care that one uniform syllabus should be made for all the universities. This PharmD course is also directly copied from USA system of education.... why PCI could also have structured such a syllabus earlier only, but never- we know only to do copy from USA...we will never take first step.Moreover in RGUHS, it seems they structured or copied the syllabus without using brains.even RGUHS doesnt know how to copy properly!!! And I can't blame anyone else because I expect vision of an Organisation to be broader than a student's or than an individual's. okay but now what is there in our hands is- we must ask our university that atleast before we pass out these basic subjects should be taught to us...

So what I want to say is that without being made to study these core subjects (or without the inclusion of these subjects in our transcripts) , what will be the value of our degree/qualification? Moreover these subjects are included in the Pharm D(6 years) syllabus,so they dont need to worry...But what about us Pharm D(PB)?
again as this course is clinically oriented, when we will pass out and will be in clinical field/hospitals, we will be working along with physicians...I fear what will happen when suppose during an interaction they will ask us a simple basic question about pathophysiology eg. whats the functions of IL-1, IL-6 etc and we will fail to reply.Again they may make fun of us as addressing us "compounder turned doctors".Sir we wont be an effective and competitive clinical pharmacist which is the central objective of this course.

PCI is the parent organisation.we must put this issue infront of them, into their ears.sir I sincerely request you to take this issue to PCI and our university registrar, dean and chairman(Board of studies).we NET PharmD people did our bit by posting letters to PCI and RGUHS people through our principal and also high level management of our college has also assured us that they will, at their level, take this issue further to the policy makers.But for this to happen successfully and fast, such voices should come and raise also from other PB students from other colleges and universities.We learnt similar syllabus problems are there within many universities.Because honestly we are very small in strength esp PB ...hardly few all over India...and this only is the reason that such blunder happened in formulating the syllabus by PCI or respective universities,, however, well, we are bothered only about RGUHS syllabus....so now we do need to take some disperate steps as fast as possible so that we the current batch can also may get benefitted.No fun if PCI make additions in the syllabus after we all pass out. Again like America did, they will also make ammendments/laws that PB students from _year to _year are only eligible and rest are not..... You will understand my point better if you look into the FPGEC bulletin 2011(availble for free download -search in google-easily you may find).

In reference to PharmD(PB) students, i feel PCI should see to it that whosoever gets the degree PharmD, certified by them, should have basic knowledge in a subject like pathophysiology, hospital pharmacy and community pharmacy.if there are discriminations between PharmD and PharmD(PB), those should be rectified on ground level......one same ground/course for each PharmD student.....afterall we PharmD(PB) students will also be certified as PharmD...we all are supposed to be called as Doctor Of Pharmacy.pathophysiology is the essence of PharmD and Pharm D(PB) course.
unless child wont cry, even mother wont feed the child her milk. similarly i am making hue and cry here on this wall so that this hunger in us Pharm D(PB) students gets into notice of our parent organisation PCI. we even wrote and posted letters regarding this issue to PCI president and our university registrar.

 Again the same thing I am saying that the ultimate sufferers will be guys like me PharmD(PB) who dont have BASIC FUNDAMENTAL CORE CLINICALLY ORIENTED SUBJECTS{LIKE PATHOPHYSIOLOGY,HOSP PHARMACY ,COMMUNITY PHARMACY ON WHICH OTHER SUBJECTS ARE BASED LIKE PHARMACOTHERAPEUTICS-I,II,III in their syllabus and that makes us quite a looser in terms of competency and effectivity when we speak of clinical Pharmacist. WE dont want to fell short and feel ashamed when we will pass out and be in same clinical field along with physicians. Also our agenda is just that we want RGUHS or PCI to include these basic subjects in our PB syllabus...ONE COMMON GROUND AND COURSE FOR ALL PHARM D AND PHARMD PB GRADUATES... we must get fair opportunity to study these basic clinically oriented subjects- as afterall Pharm D and PharmDPB are all about clinical Pharmacy.